>As far as I know, Bob Easton was credited with the off-left technique
>-- here's what happened to him:
>It's something to consider.
What? Not letting your site get hacked?
Tedd, I think you've missed the punchline of Bob's post and would
speculate that you were mislead by the url his cms created which
dispenses the question mark in Bob's actual title for the post.
The upshot is we don't really know how, why and when Google (and
other search engine providers) discriminate against any particular
form of hiding text with CSS. 
What we do know for sure though is that this issue has very little to
do with this list's stated purpose.
Thread closed please people.
 Hiding offscreen is probably fairly safe since so many
accessibility types have advocated it and so many sites actually do
use it legitimately.
Even if Google did ban its use outright, spammers could just as
trivially place the stuff they want to hide beneath another element
with a higher z-order that would obscure what was beneath it. Maybe
they already do.
Short of Google essentially rendering each and every page and
developing an articially intelligent agent that would compare what
was hidden and what was shown , this is an area that will, for the
foreseeable future, require human judgement and intervention - which
is not to say Google might not disagree with what you over what is
legitimate hiding or not.
The tags and css you use are going to come way down the list of
things in the big picture when compared to the actual content. If you
still feel you need to worry about such things, please take it to a
more general web dev discussion list, or even better, one dedicated
 Beyond checking that the color of text is not set to the same as
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