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Are table-based layouts still needed

Sent by Alan K. Gay on 6 September 2007 15:03


I haven't done a new table-based layout in years.  That said, we have two
key pages that are truly "wire-frame" in nature, by that I mean that the
individual cells of content vary substantially in size at each rendering
(based on database contents), and these variances in size need to adjust the
layout across the "row" and up/down the column.   

I don't know any way with CSS, absent a pile of JS, that changes in the
height of the contents of a block in column one can force, across all
browsers (or even just IE for that matter), a corresponding change in the
height of a block (div, for ex) that is two columns to the right.   This
interdependence, when it is required by the application, keeps these pages
table-based.  It's the dynamic, content-driven, interdependent resizing that
is the essense of a table (and what makes them so awkward for designs that
don't need that interdependence.  If someone knows of a solution to achieve
the wire-frame nature of a table without the table, I would love to learn
about it.   The tables really are a pain.

Alan K. Gay 
www.buymetrics.com



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Serpa
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 6:51 PM
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Subject: [css-d] Are table-based layouts still needed


Or, do table-based layouts still have a place on the web?

There will definitly be a lot of table-based layouts for many times to come.
Not everyone has the knowledge nor is obligated to use CSS-based layouts.

But from a web professional standpoint, do you think table-based layouts
still need to be used for some particular layouts?

In other words, can pure CSS layouts do everything a table-based layout can
do?

I ask this becouse I still see many famous and really relevant websites with
a dirty table-based soup layout. I wonder wether was lazy, or if he didn't
know that he could do it with divs and CSS or if he knew that this kind of
layout was viable to do with CSS.

Well, just a thought :)

Marcelo.
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