Sent by Sarah McCall on 10 March 2007 10:10
Wow – so much (extremely useful!) information and you both helped me
fix my problem! Thank you so much. I have bookmarked all these pages
and will study them a bit later. It's so good to be directed to the
most elegant way of doing things instead of struggling with masses of
complex unnecessary code (I would otherwise have been studying my
Javascript book for IE browser sniffer code).
I really appreciate you taking the time to give me all this
information – it's been a huge help and means I can spend some time
playing with my kids instead of shouting at them because I'm
frustrated that my web page doesn't work properly :)
You and the css-discuss list give so much generous support – makes me
realise that there are lots of wonderful people in the world! I hope
if I get better at this that one day I will be able to help others too.
Cheers
Sarah
On 9 Mar 2007, at 23:05, francky wrote:
> Sarah McCall wrote:
>> [...]
>> Can I just ask what kind of code the '[if lte IE 6] ... [endif]'
>> is? Even though it works, I like to know the details of how,
> Well, it is not html, not css and not a programming language - it's
> a part of Microsoft's IE language ...
> The MSIE language is just IE only, and IMO it shouldn't be used
> unless to correct IE bugs. ;-)
> How the Conditional Comments (the name for the '[if lte IE 6] ...
> [endif]' stuff) are working, is explained by Microsoft in a MSDN page:
>
> * About Conditional Comments
> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/
> author/dhtml/overview/ccomment_ovw.asp>
>
> ... though their examples could be a bit updated:
>
> * test :: Microsoft's IE CC information :-)
> <http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-IE-
> cc-information.htm>
>
> Besides the link of Jukka, lots of practical suggestions about
> filtering on Georg's page:
>
> * CSS sledgehammer...#2 <http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/
> wd_1_02_01.html>
>
>> [...]
>> and what other programming languages I need to think about
>> learning to enable me to make the fullest use of CSS.
>> [...]
>>
> In my opinion, css and (x)html should be enough; added can be some
> knowledge about javascript for some (dynamical) features and tricks.
>
> But for the fullest use of CSS a kind of "bug destroying
> language" :-) is developed, which is no language at all, but a
> series of hacks and workarounds, gathered from all over the world,
> to force that browsers (and especially IE) are doing what should be
> expected according to the w3c css specs. For this, I can recommend
> 'Position Is Everything - modern browser bugs explained in detail':
>
> * PIE, startpage <http://www.positioniseverything.net/>
> * PIE, IE troubles <http://www.positioniseverything.net/
> explorer.html>
>
> Greetings,
> francky
>
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