Hi Mark, On a Mac it renders ok in Firefox 1.5.0.4. But in Safari 1.3.2 all content below the header and navigation appears in one continuous left column, roughly 200px wide. In IE5, the latest news etc column to the left, a long way below the main body text, and the lorem logo is sticking outside its container. William ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/