Is it true that you can't add top and bottom padding to LI elements? I created a horizontal navigation list and I try to add padding to either the LI elements or the A elements within the LI and it still won't increase the padding. The reason I'm trying to change it is because my hover is getting messed up when my nav wraps (we don't want nowrap). Take a look at this page and squeeze in the side so the footer wraps and then you'll see what happens when you hover over the links: http://www.cota.csulb.edu/index.cfm?fuseaction=cota.home Thanks, Mike ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/