> >>>this isn't a fix for your ie problem (which i can't see), > The menu isn't centred in IE but almost is, you need to look closely http://sltclan.com/images/cj/dinghy.png > >>>but the page > took well over 10 seconds to show up in firefox, and on first view in > ie it actually timed out. a refresh of ie also took a long time to > load the page at all but it did work this second time.>>> > > Wow! > > Certainly doesn't do that in any of the browsers that I have used or had it checked with. > > the page is only 3kb so that is really odd. your pictures aren't 3kb, and i was loading them for the first time. i don't think the size of your pictures should have been that big of a deal however, and certainly shouldn't have caused ie to time out for me. this part is well beyond being out of my league, though. > >>>the second level being centered leads me to assume that no other menu > items pop out for a third level, but they do and it threw me off. >>> > > Why? > this might be a personal way of thinking, so take it how you will. when you center links, i don't expect more links to jump out of the SIDE of those links. your main menu (where you have the top links centered) doesn't throw me off when it jumps out because the links underneath are in the middle of the top menu. it still "fits" to me. having a centered menu with popups underneath that are also centered that *then* have *sideways* jumping out throws me off because the text i was just looking at was centered. i could just be weird. like i said, this might be a personal way of thinking so take it how you will. > >>i get horizontal scrolling in both ie and ff. my browser window is > always set to 800x600.>> > > At the market at which this site is aimed, I will be very surprised if anyone uses 800 x 600. > > However, with an image size of 770px I guess that is ound to happen. probably. :) ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/