Hello again. I've been doing more work on this problem, and just can't figure it out. Initially I was unable to get a vertical line to extend from the banner are to the top of the footer in a liquid multi-column layout where any column is the longest. Matthew Levine suggested that I check out One True Layout at http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/onetruelayout/equalheight I visited the link and implemented div#nav, div#content { padding-bottom: 32767px; margin-bottom: -32767px; } #wrapper { overflow: hidden; } , using a left solid border on div#content to create the line. Before I went on to hack for the browsers that can't hang with this, I checked out the ones it was supposed to work in (according to the article). Firefox looks great! But IE 6.02 does something funny at the left end of the footer, underneath the #nav div. See here: http://www.wincog.org/test/indexline.html (stylesheets effecting layout are http://www.wincog.org/test/3colstyle.css and http://www.wincog.org/test/wincogstyle.css). I'm not sure what's going on, but it seems like overflow: hidden is not working for the nav div in IE 6. Help? Many thanks, Dagmar ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/