>Clint wrote: Hey folks, Im havin a bear of a time trying to remove two approx 5px gaps >under my navcontainers (top nav and bottom) >here is the dev page: >http://aenonfiredesign.com/clients/pce/templates/exam.php >both of the unwanted gaps are below each nav. I see the gap in IE and Firefox 1.0.6. I am not an expert, but not being able to see your .css I believe I solved a similar problem on my site http://www.mobiledatasys.com/ by setting borders and margins for top and wrapper divs to zero. I was then able to create the gap I wanted below the top div by setting a top margin for the divs inside the wrapper. Carolyn Asmussen InVision Software, Inc. Phone: 631-360-3400 x112 Fax: 631-360-3268 ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/