Peter Speltz wrote: > Now for some reason when I float the *obj_links* right, both the > *obj_title* and *obj_links* jump out of the container div. > See www.cafes.net/peter/css/snapshot4.png > I do not understand this. Hard to debug an image, but it looks like 'standard-compliant behavior': "default; containers won't expand to contain floats." Try adding this at the bottom of your style-sheet: @media screen { div.obj_bar { overflow: hidden; _height: 0; _overflow: visible; } } ....and see if that'll prevent the "jumping". The "back and forth" is to make IE/win behave, and the @media rule is preventing IE/Mac from picking up any of it. That and more alternatives for 'containing floats' here: <http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_example_01.html#ex2> regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/