I've got this working almost exactly like I want in IE, but Netscape/Firefox doesn't want to give me the lft/rgt borders like IE is doing. I've been goofing with this just a little too long now, and maybe another set of eyes would help.. File in question: http://65.36.231.94/contact.cfm CSS: http://65.36.231.94/scc.css The "toppers" with curved corners are gif files. The lft/rht borders are CSS. Ideas? -- ----------- Les Mizzell ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/