Thanks to all who answered my page - jumping problem ( scroll bars came & went depending on length of page content.) I decided to use height:100% margin-bottom 1px to make the pages to a length that would require a scroll bar regardless of content length, so pages wouldn't 'jump.' This has created another issue - how can I force the footer to the bottom of the pages that have less content? Here's a page where you can see the footer stays right underneath the content rather than at the bottom of the page. http://www.kcsm.org/catalog/railroadempire/railroadlinks.htm?id=10 Here's the css http://www.kcsm.org/catalog/railroadempire/railroad.css Thanx Juanita ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/