http://www.5finger.com/columns.html If you look at this page, you'll see the dark gray (div id="shell"), which is the basic container for the columns within, has extra space below the masthead and footer. The masthead/footer should butt right up against the 3 columns inside. How do I get rid of that extra spacing/gray bkg? CSS is inline in the view source. ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/