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Sent by John Bedard on 29 January 2002 12:12


Heh. I have no frame of reference to evaluate "antique hacks" or the ability to fix them. 

They way I see the cookie cutter design issue is that PN (and similar CMSes) are more suitable to a
certain kind of site, the portal/community builder/collaboration type site. I admit using it to
replace Blogger was probably (definitely?) overkill. But I'm also using it as a learning opportunity
because we do want to implement something like this for our intranet. Once I've tackled that project
I may play with a souped up weblog system for my personal site. 

Another thing about the design issue is that I think you are mostly dealing with geeks more than
designers on a project like this. They don't seem to mind plain or cookie cutter designs as much.
They're more interested in the functionality (crass generalization, I admit). While you're not going
to get too far away from the columnar layout, people are starting to do some interesting things
within that layout structure. There's also a lot of crap out there (as with all things in life, it
runs the gamut). I'm a designer but I'm basically apathetic. :)

John
P.S. My PN homepage DOES validate...as HTML 4.01...heh...pukes pretty hard on XHTML 1.0
transitional...even after I cleaned things up in the theme.php file last night. One thing I have to
do is track down where it generates the Meta tags and make them compliant, i.e., lowercase and
properly closed.


>>> "Al Sessions" [EMAIL-REMOVED]> 01/28/02 05:55PM >>>
I recently started fiddling about with a PostNuke on an empty domain 
<www.fatuos.com> . I wanted to teach myself PHP and jumped into 
this...hell, hard to beat an idiot proof (that'd be me) install. The 
blocks and modules appealed me as an easy way to integrate a variety 
of content.

Immediately I ran into the problem of 'cookie-cutter' design. The 
themes that are available all kinda look the same. As someone 
unfamiliar with PHP I found editing them to suit my needs a little 
more difficult than I anticipated...I never did get it quite right.

Validation... I don't even want to talk about :) 

Bottom line, there are better ways to learn a language than taking 
something that uses every antique hack in the world and trying to fix 
it.

>
>The reason I latched onto PN is that I am not a programmer so I
>can't feasibly "roll my own." Everything is there, everything (that
>I've encountered) works. There is a large community of module, theme
>and block developers. And it's been a great way to get exposed to
>and start learning PHP. Mostly I was getting frustrated with the
>limitations (and occasional downtimes) of Blogger.
>
>I've thought about trying out some of the other solutions like PHP-
>Nuke and phpWebsite, but I don't have that much time on my hands. :)

I think that there is a middle ground for this type of stuff. Movable 
Type <http://www.movabletype.org> offers a viable solution as do a 
few others (greymatter, cafelog, etc.). Something like MT coupled 
with a PHP/MySQL ( I'm liking phpBB these days) forum offers much of 
the same functionality as a *Nuke site in a much more understandable 
(for the code illiterate, at least) package.


-- 
Al Sessions 
http://www.lifeonthedeck.com  (weblog)
[EMAIL-REMOVED] 
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