Hi, One of the best designs I've found up to this moment is the method desrcibed in the following article, published byt ALA: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/ It uses negative margins, it's 3-columns layout, and is pretty nice and easy to implement:) I've used it once (live example: www.all4smartphone.com) and it worked fine. Hope that was of some help (I am sure others will have other ideas/resources to share with you). And for liquid two columns layouts, it's very easy to find resourses on the web - I usually use a float + some margin on the other div (live example: petus-bulgaria.org). This is classics;-) Regards, Michel ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/