Patrick Mannix wrote:
> Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
>> ...Proportional pages don't break--they just become less
> Good point. Accessibility is highest among my priorities. I did like
> the "not breaking" part though.
Even the "non breaking" part can be messed up in a proportional design,
if the designer decide to design too "smart" without thorough testing.
- Someone (like me) may use 'minimum font size' which isn't scaling
fonts proportionally, but instead is forcing up the smaller text and may
leave the larger text totally unaffected.
- Add in that different fonts have different 'x-height', and that
'font-size-adjust' isn't implemented anywhere (see:
....and proportional bits and pieces of a web page may end up being
anything /but/ proportional to the page itself.
(I've seen a few examples on css-d lately that fit this scenario, and
they were breaking badly.)
>> My advise is to test even more across browser-land, and look at
>> other solutions / combinations.
> ...and my revisit today, particularly to your "simple web pages"
> <http://www.gunlaug.no/homesite/main_7.html> is sure to inspire even
Be careful... :-) Time is running out for those "simple web pages". They
aren't up to my standards, and I hate archived web-rot.
Try <http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1.html> instead. They are
slightly more prepared for the future. Also, read them as 'dated'
material, as 'search for better solutions' is the only constant you'll
find on my site.
> ...you pointed out accessibility issues I failed to consider. I
> thought I had covered that by testing among a group of seniors...
User-tests can only tell you so much, and users knowledge is usually
outdated. You must test far beyond what user-tests show, if you want to
cover all issues for today and tomorrow. You must also try to find the
point when you say "it's ridiculous to go any further at this stage", or
else you'll never find solutions that are working in most cases.
To quote myself: "People who like to argue in length about lack of
access for their preferred software, should be listen to--up to a point.
If accommodating one small group, makes web pages less accessible for
the larger groups, then "some" software should be fixed, not our web
pages." See: <http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_03.html> for more.
I'm pretty relaxed when it comes to which solutions are better or worse,
as web design is a bunch of compromises. The further we can push the
limits, the better it'll work, but there will always be limits. Some of
these limits are 'standardized', and some are best described as 'trends
without foundations' (someone's untested personal preferences that are
being copied, without further testing).
Good luck, and share any findings with the rest of us.
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