So far, the help I have received has been beneficial. But I've confused myself (again; sorry for taking it out on you all) with a box hack(s) for IE5. I've also complicated it by using "em" instead of "px." Firefox and IE6 look presentable. Use them for your example. IE5 looks butchered and I can't figure out my hacks. May I get some assistance again with this project? Here's the site: http://66.70.252.44/suckertest.html Thank you! Duane Nelson Loss2gaiN Designs - A Website Development Company http://www.loss2gain.com ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/