can't you set a fixed width on the UL? ie 500px, 20em etc? Anything but %. > We'd like to prevent that if possible... is there a way to keep the float from bumping? ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/