http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200502/simple_clearing_of_floats/ I haven't noticed this mentioned on the list so far, but Roger Johansson and others have realised/discovered a method of clearing floats (or rather making elements expand to contain their children) that is as semantic as the PIE easy clearing method, but much much simpler. It also has the advantage that it doesn't inadvertently clear any previous floats. It's as simple as this ..floatclear { overflow:hidden; } * html .floatclear { height:1%; } Maybe some massive flaw will be discovered but a close reading of the specs looks like this is correct and not a mass-cross-browser-bugfest ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/