Hi Everyone, I've done a bit with css but still very newbie... it seems I'm not getting my head around things. I've been chasing my tail the last couple of days, looked through archives, read how-to etc... but I'm not getting it! Currently I'm doing this site http://www.lismorewilsonmotel.com.au/index01.html (and have this site and another to do by next Monday, so getting a little panicky) The problems: http://www.lismorewilsonmotel.com.au/index01.html is how I want the homepage to look, liquid design with double line at bottom of image and text moving to allow text to wrap around pic. But if I put in #footer it shows on the navigation bar and the navigation links don't work see http://www.lismorewilsonmotel.com.au/index02.html if I make the footer 'absolute' then it won't resize without the text going beneath the footer? http://www.lismorewilsonmotel.com.au/booking.shtml - bottom of page #spacerc should show thin dark line. http://www.lismorewilsonmotel.com.au/todo.shtml - the #titles div is absolute and when I show without the css (I want it to be viewable without a stylesheet for text only or old browsers) the image in the div goes to the bottom of the page. I'm sure I'm missing something intrinsic to css and want to ensure this site (and the other one I have to do) works well... and I'm learning it properly, not 'stabbing in the dark'! Would appreciate any help. Thanks Vicki "I'd put my money on the Sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that." -Thomas Edison \(.)^(.)/ ------0------ Keenstreet Communications http://www.keenstreet.com.au ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/