I've noticed sometimes I have problems getting padding and margins to work and if I apply a border:1px solid #fff or something similar it will start behaving properly in IE. What is happening here? Ted Drake Web Content Editor CSA Travel Protection http://www.csatravelprotection.com <http://www.csatravelprotection.com/> ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/