Hi I continued to go back to basics and put together what I thought was a very simple design and very basic colours. But it doesn't work in Firefox or Safari and I didn't check on from that. It works in Camino! The site is http://www.cregy.net/ with the css at http://www.cregy.net/themes/BlueTheme/style.css. I have also found that when I go to http://www.cregy.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1 the background is white and the type is white but I can't see where I have indicated this. Thanks for the help. Rich ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/