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[css-d] ADMIN: A few points of order (19 Apr 02 edition)

Sent by Eric A. Meyer on 19 April 2002 10:10


Hi folks,

    It's time for my semi-periodic unscheduled "notes from the List 
Chaperone" posting, so sit back, get comfy, grab some popcorn, and 
enjoy.

    First, a reminder/appeal/gripe: PLEASE trim your quoted text! 
PLEASE!!!  I've seen a recent upswing in messages that have somewhere 
around three lines of text followed by 50 lines of quoted material, 
or vice versa.  Both are wrong.  Cut down what you quote to a bare 
minimum, or dump it altogether.  The original-text-to-quoted-text 
ratio of any message should be at least 1:1, and ideally 5:1 or 
higher.  It takes all of two seconds to do this, maybe as many as 
five if you're quoting out portions of a message.  Do us all the 
courtesy of taking that little bit of extra time.
    This is more important than it seems, so please don't be lazy 
about it.  I'm already getting complaints about this problem from 
digest subscribers, who suffer the most when list members indulge in 
lazy, excessive quoting.  In the future, I'll just have them complain 
to offenders directly by sending them copies of messages 
demonstrating the problem.  Get me?  Good.

    Second: a few people have told me that they feel discouraged from 
posting because they don't want to run the "disapproval gauntlet," as 
one person put it.  That needs to change.  If someone posts a message 
saying "I'm trying to get this to work in browsers X, B, and K," that 
is NOT a request to be told why browser B is a horrible piece of 
dreck and should be ignored by everyone, everywhere, forever.  So 
don't take it that way.  If you know of a way to make the intended 
effect work in all the listed browsers, then by all means share it. 
If you are certain that the effect can't be done in one of the listed 
browsers, share that.  If you don't know either way, then let it go. 
Okay?  Thanks.

    Next up: a request that if you post a URL to the list, and the 
content on that page might be considered offensive or tasteless, give 
the list members fair warning.  Some people on the list work for 
companies where a "content monitor" runs on the firewall, and they 
have to explain (in writing!) every incident of a visit to a 
"naughty" Web page-- even if just a single word triggers the monitor. 
So if you like to curse in your Weblog and you ask for help with your 
CSS, that's fine, but let others know that content of the site might 
be considered offensive by some.

    Almost finally, a few words about mail delivery.  Digests go out 
at least once a day, so if you stop seeing them for a few days, 
assume your account was suspended due to delivery problems.  Ditto 
for regular mail delivery-- if a couple of days go by and you haven't 
seen any mail, you can probably assume that the account got 
suspended.  This happens automatically if an account generates 
excessive bounces.  Furthermore, if your account generates enough 
mail delivery failures to annoy the admins, you may get your mail 
manually suspended.  The only reason we EVER suspend mail delivery is 
due to mail delivery problems.  We never suspend mail delivery 
because a member has violated list policies.
    If your account gets suspended, we'll leave it in place for a 
while.  You should certainly feel free to correct whatever problem 
caused the bounces and re-enable mail delivery.  Every few months, 
I'll go through and unsubscribe any account that A) was suspended 
more than a few weeks prior and B) is still suspended; that is, the 
subscriber hasn't re-enabled delivery.  In fact, I've done this once 
already-- 30 accounts were pruned as a result.
    But do NOT (and I mean NOT) send an "is the list alive?" message 
to the list.  You can find out if you have mail delivery enabled by 
going to <http://two.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/css-discuss> and 
logging into the "Subscriber Options" area.  If mail delivery has 
been suspended, you'll see a big warning message across the top.  If 
you don't see a big suspension warning, then your account is fine. 
Similarly, if you want to change your account options, go to the 
above URL and log in.

    And last: If you want to unsubscribe from the list, go to 
<http://two.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/css-discuss> and log in. 
On the next screen, enter your password in the "Unsubscribing" area 
and click on the "Unsubscribe" button.  If your attempt to 
unsubscribe from the list generates an actual error message, then 
please send the full text of the error message to 
[EMAIL-REMOVED]' so we can investigate.  If for some 
reason you can't figure out how to unsubscribe, take a break, have a 
snack, relax, and then go back to the above URL and try again.  As a 
last resort, if you're completely baffled, send a message to 
[EMAIL-REMOVED]' that explains that you can't figure 
out how to unsubscribe, and would like some help.  Above all, do not 
send abusive e-mail to either the list or the administrators.  That 
would make me grouchy.  You wouldn't like me when I'm grouchy.

    Thank you for your time and attention.  That is all.

--
Eric A. Meyer [EMAIL-REMOVED]) http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/
Author, "Cascading Style Sheets: The Definitive Guide" and
"CSS 2.0 Programmer's Reference"  http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/books/
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