I've been looking at, and breakng down, the CSS for http://www.positioniseverything.net/piefecta-rigid.html [a 3col tableless layout]. I noticed this class; ..wide p {margin: 0; padding: 5px; position: relative;} and wondered effect 'position: relative;' has on a p? any thoughts? I took it out and it seemed to have no ill effects on IE6 or Moz1.6a t.i.a. ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/