Anton Outkine wrote: >http://beta.aienn.com/css-discuss/btest.html ><snipped> however. please notice the red line border near footer and green square >border on a side list. if i remove them, some ugly gaps appear in certain >browsers (Firefox, Opera). these borders are, well, superfluous to the >design > >um. do I miss something ? > Yes. The recent threads on margin collapsing. ;-) No hard feelings though -- it's funny how topics here always come in waves. This week everyone is having trouble with margin collapsing, next week it will be 3 pixel gaps, the next week it will be float drops, etc. :-) But anyway, the gaps are due to the fact that vertical margins that touch basically merge together. Borders or padding that separate adjacent margins stop the collapsing. Read here for more: http://www.complexspiral.com/publications/uncollapsing-margins/ Zoe -- Zoe M. Gillenwater Design Specialist Highway Safety Research Center http://www.hsrc.unc.edu ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/