Hey folks, This is the first time I tried to do my own somewhat more complex css layout totally from scratch, no canned dw css here. The way it looks in FF 1.0 in win2k is (almost) the way it's supposed to look. Opera 7.11 floats the nav bar up a few pixels and shows the light blue background underneath, not good, but at least it's somewhat close. Mozilla 1.7.3 shows basically the same thing FF does (yay!) Then there's IE6 -- AAARRRGGGHHH!!!! http://goldengup.com/bluestone/bluestoneindex2.htm http://goldengup.com/bluestone/bluestonestyles2.css It amazes me that something that looks so awful in half my browsers validates at w3 for both xhtml and css. Yes, I wanna hear from you mac folk and anyone with IE5 (but I'm also dreading it, if ya know what I mean) The only other thing I'd like to change is if I could center the nav buttons across the bottom that would be nice, and if there's a way to add a rollover image without the jscript-- I found out why you don't use hover colors under images, it just doesn't seem to be only where I want it to be. I did attempt centering using div align="center" with no floats, but that would have been too easy, wouldn't it? I tried adding a left margin to the furthest left float, and that definitely moved things around in a very undesirable way, and I know my math skills aren't THAT bad! (um, could it be that 3 pixel thing going on???) Then I tried one of the listomatic list layouts and laughed so hard I almost w- um, never mind. If you want to laugh that hard, you can peek here: http://goldengup.com/bluestone/bluestoneindex.htm http://goldengup.com/bluestone/bluestonestyles.css I put a hover color on the links so you can see just how magnificently I managed to screw it up. Any and all comments, suggestions and wet noodle beatings gratefully accepted. -- Ciao for now, BJ [EMAIL-REMOVED] ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/