Sent by liorean on 4 December 2004 07:07
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 22:34:20 -0800, Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon
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> In search of the elusive site that works everywhere, I've now set up PearPC and installed OS X
Panther on it. The resulting install runs slowly but usably on my Athlon 64 3000+. As it turns
out, this was a very good idea; Safari has some minor bugs, and IE/Mac and iCab have some
not-so-minor ones.
Note: There is a world of difference between Safari 1.0 and Safari
1.2. Jaguar users are stuck with 1.0, so if you have the possibility,
test in both.
> The fact that iCab is a problem brings up an important question: which Mac browsers should I care
about? A quick-'n-dirty log analysis suggests that IE 5 and Safari are the important ones--but in
that order, which isn't my understanding of the Mac world, so I kind of
> question their accuracy. On the other hand, Safari and IE 5 are the only ones I knew to look
for, so I could be missing something big.
> So, my questions for the list are:
> - Which Mac browsers should I code for?
OS9: Ie5.17m and op6 are the ones you'll be seeing.
OSX Jaguar: Saf 1.0, ie5.23m
OSX Panther: Saf 1.2
OSX <any cat>: Ow5, Shiira (should be level with Safari since it uses
WebKit), Camino, Firefox, Op7.5/7.6
> - Are there big version differences? Which versions are important?
- Saf 1.0 for Jaguar, and the most recent one (ATM 1.2.4) for Panther.
- Ie5.23m. (Msn/osx has a newer version of the Tasman engine, but I
don't think you have any users of note for that one...)
- Firefox and Mozilla are essentially the same and shouldn't be an issue.
- Camino is out of synch with moz, though so that one I would test,
though you can do that testing later in the development cycle than
most other testing.
- Opera is a little slow at releasing new versions for Mac at the
moment, but their codebase is now shared between all platforms, so
there should be very little testing needed in that area. Test 7.50.
When 7.60 is out, test that one instead. Opera users are typically
fast upgraders, and this is a significant upgrade since it'll be the
one that enables for example GMail.
- OmniWeb is somewhat behind Safari in rendering. It's worth testing in.
If you split them over development phases:
Every-itty-bitty-fiddling-testing:
- Moz 1.7/Ff 1.0 on any platform
- Ie6w
- Ie5.5w
- Saf1.2
- Ie5m (if OS9 support necessary, otherwise I wouldn't bother)
- Op7.6 on any platform
Every-major-feature-change-testing:
- Saf1.0
- Ow5
- Ie5m
- Ie5.0w
- Op7.5m (for now)
End-of-development-just-to-make-sure-testing:
- Op6 (Not really necessary, but this is the major alternative device
(mobile phone, PDA, other small screen devices) browser, so it's worth
testing). Preferably on a Symbian powered phone, but the desktop
platforms can be worth testing too. Especially for OS9 support, since
this is a major iem alternative there.
- Cam
- Msn/osx if you care
- iCab if you care
- Netscape 7 if you care
- Netscape 4 for OS9 support. (Buggy, but different bugs from the
Windows version, which in turn has different bugs from the Linux
version.) This is again an if-you-care browser.
> Are there any tricks to installing old versions?
- Safari: no, it uses OS built in technology.
- Moz/ff/nn7: as long as you have different profiles for each, there
should be no problem having multiple.
- Op7: see moz.
> - Do any of the browsers use similar enough code that I can ignore one if I test with another?
(For example, it looks like Omniweb and Safari use the same engine.)
Essentially, OmniWeb renders somewhere in between Saf1.0 and Saf1.2.
This will probably be a consistent lag, so you it's worth testing, but
not as frequently.
Camino lags behind moz as well, and because it uses native widgets is
worth testing.
Netscape is known to break some moz things, so it might be worth a final check.
Oh, and sorry for saying things three things over, but I answered your
questions as they came...
--
David "liorean" Andersson
<uri:http://liorean.web-graphics.com/>
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