Now that I'm revising my old frames based site to use CSS, I know enough to be dangerous. I actually have several problems but I'll start with the most annoying. Each internal page has a header, navigation on the left, and body content. The problem is my vertical spacing where the body content begins. If I start with a headline there is slightly too much space from the header. If I start with something else like a small table or another DIV, then there is not enough space. Tinkering has not worked. Here are some links to compare, followed by the CSS for the content. broken not enough space ... http://www.keithpurtell.com/kthings/body_pubtrust.htm http://www.keithpurtell.com/kthings/body_cityhall.htm broken too much space (slightly)... http://www.keithpurtell.com/kthings/body_gway.htm CSS... #Content { margin:0px 50px 50px 150px; /* top right bottom left */ padding:0px; } Keith Purtell ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/