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Re: [css-d] how do you kill vertical scrollbar in IE ?

Sent by Bob Boyle on 28 January 2002 23:11

> Does anyone know a CSS compliant way to remove dead scrollbars in IE ??

Perhaps a more important question is, "Is it worth it?"

If you can kill it with something other than using JavaScript to turn the
scrollbars off, can you get the browser to actually allow you to make use of
that space?

I only ask because I've had a lot of experience (and headaches) trying to
make use of those *** 16 pixels *** in NN4.x. In general, it was far more of
a hassle than it was worth.

(Then again, that client was paying hourly rates and they kept insisting on
having it....)

When you've got 780 or 1004 pixels (if you're going to snub Mac people) to
work with already, do those extra 16 pixels really matter all that much?
Besides, Jacob Nielsen (genuflect) keeps reminding us how little users
scroll -- you, as a designer, may be aware that its there, but that
grayed-out scrollbar may not even register in the consciousness of the
average user.

AS FOR MAC (and PC) CSS Software--
John, you beat me to it. But you shouldn't be so modest:

If any of y'all are looking for a tool to help you do CSS positioning
layouts, also has Layout Master available. There really
isn't anything quite like it out there.

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