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RE: postnuke (was Re: [css-d] Suggestions sought...

Sent by Bob Sawyer on 28 January 2002 22:10


I'm not sure whether you are looking for a discussion-board type of
application, or a blog application. However, if you're looking for a blog,
I'm currently working on one that is PHP/MySQL driven, built with XHTML
styled with CSS, and offers all the amenities that seem to be so common with
blog scripts these days (reader comments, etc., plus a pretty decent
administration menu.) So far, it validates nicely. :-)

You can see it in action at - although I'm
still working on the admin stuff, and currently the output isn't styled as
nicely as I'd like it to be. But that's just fluff - the admin stuff needs
to work flawlessly! :-)

Once it's all working properly, and thoroughly tested, I'll more than likely
be releasing it to the general public.


-----Original Message-----
[EMAIL-REMOVED]]On Behalf Of Al Sessions
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: postnuke (was Re: [css-d] Suggestions sought...

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:28:12 -0500, John Bedard wrote:
>Okay, I guess I'll jump in, though I'm not the official spokesperson
>for PostNuke. :)
>PN is a modular content management system. I guess one of the
>benefits over it's sire, PHP-Nuke, is its modularity. From what I
>understand, PHP-Nuke code and formatting was all lumped together in
>the various files, especially when it comes to the content modules
>(news, web links, topics, FAQ, etc.). The PN folks have split that
>up and separated out the theme elements such as content block
>formatting and styles. They are still using tables for the main
>layout, and the main theme file specifies table background and text
>colors as global variables in PHP. But the individual block, header,
>footer and story layouts are handled in the theme itself. There are
>also external stylesheets, one for nn4 and another for the rest. I'm
>hopeful that I can handle most of the recoding in the theme, but
>there does seem to be some formatting still handled in the
>individual content modules.

I recently started fiddling about with a PostNuke install on an empty
domain I only use for mail,
< >. I wanted to teach myself PHP and jumped into
this...hell, hard to beat an idiot proof (that'd be me) install. The
blocks and modules appealed me as an easy way to integrate a variety
of content.

Immediately I ran into the problem of 'cookie-cutter' design. The
themes that are available all kinda look the same. As someone
unfamiliar with PHP I found editing them to suit my needs a little
more difficult than I anticipated...I never did get it quite right.

Validation... I don't even want to talk about :)

Bottom line, there are better ways to learn a language than taking
something that uses every antique hack in the world and trying to fix

>The reason I latched onto PN is that I am not a programmer so I
>can't feasibly "roll my own." Everything is there, everything (that
>I've encountered) works. There is a large community of module, theme
>and block developers. And it's been a great way to get exposed to
>and start learning PHP. Mostly I was getting frustrated with the
>limitations (and occasional downtimes) of Blogger.
>I've thought about trying out some of the other solutions like PHP-
>Nuke and phpWebsite, but I don't have that much time on my hands. :)

I think that there is a middle ground for this type of stuff. Movable
Type < > offers a viable solution as do a
few others (greymatter, cafelog, etc.). Something like MT coupled
with a PHP/MySQL ( I'm liking phpBB these days) forum offers much of
the same functionality as a *Nuke site in a much more understandable
(for the code illiterate, at least) package.

Al Sessions  (weblog)

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