This is certainly closer than I have gotten. I'm sort of surprised that CSS doesn't handle this well, it seems like something you'd want to do pretty often. Admittedly, I have rarely seen things handle it truly well. Maybe QuarkXpress. In word processors I often find myself having the put the title and date in the same line, centered, with enough spaces to make it look flush with the edges. Once in a while that even looks okay. -- Dubious as dubi does. http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/