Fellow CSSers, I posted this over the weekend (not the best time) and struck out, so, I apologize for the dupe posting. Even since then I tried all kinds of things, none successful. I persist because this is a real roadblock. This additional padding happens only in Win IE and only in the DIV "colorbar". I have placed a red border around the DIV so you can see the problem. The CSS is internal. Any help would be much appreciated. http://69.93.79.162/~primary/padtest.html --Brad ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/