Hello Tom, It was foretold that on 9-12-2003 @ 12:09:46 GMT-0500 (which was 18:09:46 where I live) Tom Livingston would mumble: <snipped a bit> TL> I am trying to have a page background image repeat vertically and begin TL> at a certain x and y on the page. TL> The position I want is only achievable if I set the background-repeat TL> to 'no-repeat'. Why?? Tom, do you have an url where we can look at it? It's much easier to look at the problem if you provide an url with your post :-) -- Best regards, Luc _________________________ http://www.dzinelabs.com Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/7 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 and using the best browser: Opera. "War does not determine who is right - only who is left." - Bertrand Russell ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/