I remember a post on this site which mentioned recommended texts on CSS.One, highly recommended, was on converting from table placement to style sheets, going all the way through the process on an example ending with the fully style-sheeted version. I have lost my notes on that, and I don not know how to search the archives here. To save me reading a few hundred messages, can someone give me the title? try these: http://www.thefixor.com/code_css_01.php http://www.thefixor.com/code_table.php http://climbtothestars.org/coding/tableless/ http://www.websitetips.com/css/#cssp http://www.meryl.net/css/ http://www.glish.com/css/ http://www.idblog.org/archives/000003.html http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/dreamweaver/articles/tableless_layout.html http://www.dmxzone.com/myZone.asp?userid=5043 http://www.dmxzone.com/myZone.asp?userid=126205 http://www.paranoidfish.org/notes/2003/09/25/2226 http://www.w3.org/2002/03/csslayout-howto http://www.pmob.co.uk/version7/webtemplates/design21/ http://webdesign.about.com/library/weekly/aa102102a.htm http://sentio.port5.com/writings/web/108.html http://www.saila.com/usage/layouts/cssvtables.shtml http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/tables.html regards Jake Byrne ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/