It has to do with collapsing margins. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/box.html#collapsing-margins http://trats.ozforces.com.au/css/collapsingmargins.html Jon ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/