It's working in theory but not in practice. To make a long story short, it works here: http://www.tokyohockey.com/test.html ... and here: http://www.tokyohockey.com/test1.html But it doesn't work on the real site: http://www.tokyohockey.com/index.html It works okay on pages where there's little content and the footer sticks to the bottom, even when resizing the window, like here: http://www.tokyohockey.com/pages/info.html But on pages with lots of text, it sticks to wherever the bottom of the page was when the page was loaded, and does not move, like here: http://www.tokyohockey.com/pages/join.html Obviously, the pages with real content have more elaborate style sheets. But I can not see how the extra DIV tags, which are mostly in the header, would cause the footer to behave differently. But that's almost certainly because my CSS skills are too limited. I mean, I don't really understand how the first example page successfully does what it does, so that makes it very tough to trouble shoot. Can I start griping yet about how such a simple effect shouldn't be so difficult to make? -- Cheers! Dave G [EMAIL-REMOVED] ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/