Sent by S.D.Price on 29 October 2003 09:09
That's a great idea - just one question would it work if someone has
javascript on but images turned off?
I'm guessing (hoping) the javascript would fail and the visitor would just
see text.
Thanks
Steven
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From: Peter-Paul Koch [EMAIL-REMOVED]]
Sent: 28 October 2003 16:34
To: [EMAIL-REMOVED]
Subject: Re: [css-d] Toogle CSS off with W3C DOM - FIR uses wrong tool
>I am working on a website which I realise uses FIR (Fahrner Image
>Replacement) to present visual browsers with images and screen readers
>with text. It uses display: none to hide text from visual browsers
>presenting a css background-image and relies on JAWS to incorrectly
>read 'hidden' text.
>
>My problem is those users who have a css capable browser and switch
>images off. They see nothing.
>
>Is there any way with W3C Dom level1 to toogle the css display property
>on or off depending on whether the user has images switched on i.e.
>something
As far as I know that's not possible.
You set me thinking, though. I dislike FIR because of its CSS hackiness,
even though I like the concept. But I suddenly saw what we're doing wrong.
We're using the wrong tool. Our error is that we try to replace text by
images in CSS, while we *should use JavaScript*!
Serve the page with normal text in the headers, then run a script that
*replaces* the text by an image.
This solves all accessibility issues at one stroke. As a bonus you don't
need complicated and potentially hazardous CSS any more, just a few lines of
script and some strategically placed data sources.
Of course we'd lose the few noscript users, but so what? The replacement
isn't essential, it's just a nice extra.
Interesting idea. I'll try to write a script.
(BTW: Is "should we use CSS or JavaScript for this effect" on topic? If not,
the thread should end here)
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