HTML : http://www.nzmint.com/dsales/dshop2.mv CSS: http://www.nzmint.com/css/nzm_basic.css http://www.nzmint.com/css/nzm_2.css The above page uses the method described by Eric Bednarz ( http://devnull.tagsoup.com/fixed/ ) to emulate fixed positioning in MSIE. THis method requires that IE6 is running in quirks mode. It also works fine in Opera. Gecko, however, seems not to allow for the 40px div on the left, and calculates the menu labels too wide. Any suggestions as to how to make Gecko behave the asme as Opera and IE, given that the doctype is XHTML 1.0? Checks in Mac and Linux browsers would also be welcome. Please note that the rest of the pages are not compatible with the layout changes and new stylesheets - they will not render well until their scripts are adapted.. I do intend disabling the slide effect in Gecko because it is rendered so poorly. -- Richard Grevers Between two evils always pick the one you haven't tried ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/