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What do screen readers really say?

Sent by Bob Easton on 13 September 2003 12:12

Bob Easton wrote:
 > Instead, we now see
 > designers putting skip navigation links, and other sorts of
 > accessibility material, in pages as simple text and then hiding it
 > from the screen with display:none.
 > The problem is that it does not work as expected.

Might I beg some more testing?

The Old Actor directs Mortimer in Abduction Ballet, "No no no, OFF LEFT, 
damm it!" (The Fantastiks). The off-left technique looks like a very 
good replacement for display:none.

The technique came to us from Choan Gálvez earlier in this thread. I 
extended it. Then, Dave Shea reduced it. The result works with Jaws 
4.51, Window-Eyes 4.5 (beta), and IBM Home Page Reader 3.02.  Does it 
have adverse effects in other screen readers or browsers.  We encourage 
your testing, especially for this one test.  I'm most interested in 
hearing about tests from a variety of browsers. Try the one test and 
then report via the "tell me" form.

Please test at
Report at {
	position: absolute;
	left: -999px;
	width: 990px;

The beauty of this technique is that it enables using as much text as we 
feel appropriate, and the elements we feel appropriate. Imagine 
interspersing "start of..." landmarks through a page with heading tags. 
Or, imagine parking full lists off left, lists of access keys, for 
example. Screen readers can easily collect all headings and read 
complete lists.  Now, we have the technique that we wanted. (tests 
pending, of course)

Bob Easton
Bob Easton

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