Sent by Postmaster on 11 September 2003 18:06
Firstly, this is my first message to this mailing list, having been
reading since the end of March this year. I was no newbie to CSS when I
joined and I think I have a reasonable grasp of the basics. I can
comfortably construct a basic page with XHTML and CSS, enough to
validate first time 9 times out of 10 - but I sometimes find myself
hankering for the easy option, rather than the right one.
I'm having something of a brain ache getting away from TABLEs in my page
design, primarily because whenever I try the result always falls apart.
A prime example is my new site at www.renegadetimelord.com.
I would note that the site has only recently gone up and I'm still
fiddling with the content. There are some loose DIV tags in there that
are no longer in the external style sheets (innerframe and outerframe)
and also some inline styling that I haven't taken out yet. I've been
using !important rather more than I'd like to resolve some styling
issues and underscores in style names to stop NN4 from seeing them.
In Mozilla 1.4, IE6 and NN4 on Windows 98 and Windows XP everything
currently seems to be OK. In NN4 I've had trouble getting the site to
centre and pictures were dropping to the left, hanging over text, until
I put float:right in. I know I have align:right in the IMG tags and I
need to remove them. Erroneous tags aside, the site vaildates for XHTML
1.0 transitional and CSS.
After all that preamble, I'd appreciate a site check in any other
browser and OS combinations (though I know the results may well depress
me).
I'd also appreciate some help in converting the TABLEs in the head of
the pages that hold the title banner and navigation into something more
CSS-centric. Whatever I did, the DIV either dropped to the left or broke
up. I tried display:inline when it broke up, but the final slice of the
image dropped down onto the next line. I tried to use
white-space:nowrap, but NN4 ignored it (as I expected) keeping the
dropped final graphic slice - and I'd like to keep NN4 working (as it
does now with a TABLE). Also, when I used a DIV instead of a TABLE, the
HR tag beneath pushed up into it. Adding 10 or 20 pixels of margin
pushed the HR down, but it was more pronounced a push in IE than
Mozilla.
As I mentioned... headache. Any suggestions appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
Paul
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