Well, if hiding a link by coloring the text the same as the background keeps you out, then we can't use this technique either. This is not a sarcastic remark, it is an acknowledgement that although this technique may be "visible" to screen readers, it is invisible to the sighted who may wish to use it. I am surprised that you did not take a stronger stance and say, "No, I can't use it". However, your small text technique does not comply with Joe Clark's recommendation (according to another on this list) which was to suggest large text. Jules Original Message ----------------------- It keeps me out, but at least it solves the problem of whether or not a screen reader will see it. ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/