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RE: [css-d] A pixel is a pixel is a... just what is it?

Sent by Mike Papageorge on 31 January 2003 19:07


Arlen,

Thanks for the response. The gist of this question came from trying to
figure out what to do for a couple of sites that I am designing. Sadly,
I am dealing with an audience in a couple of cases that is not too Web
savvy. Scaling of fonts in this case will probably not be too big of a
concern to me, what I will need is reliability, and therefore I will
likely go with pixels (please don't let that comment start an outbreak -
I have read all of the relevant links!)

What is funny is that some of the people I am dealing with haven't even
been on the Web. What I worry about, is that they have the ability to
connect to the web through some of the newer phones that access the web,
that being the case, maybe they give it a try. That is why I asked, but
really, it isn't such a big concern, and was more out of curiosity than
professional necessity!

Cheers,

Mike

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>A simple question. I think that I have this right:

No question about CSS is simple!

>A pixel is relative, to the resolution of the screen, right? Therefore,
>it is not an absolute thing, and 12 pixels on my pc will be bigger than
>if I were to see 12 pixels on my cell phone, right?

Depends. Are you talking about the hardware pixel or the CSS unit pixel?
And further, are we talking about the CSS unit pixel from the spec or
the
CSS unit pixel as implemented in most browsers?

"The suggested reference pixel is the visual angle of one pixel on a
device
with a pixel density of 90dpi and a distance from the reader of an arm's
length. For a nominal arm's length of 28 inches, the visual angle is
about
0.0227 degrees."

So says the W3C. Most browser makers have implented CSS pixels as
1/hardware pixel, but the CSS spec actual creates a hypothetical pixel,
defines it, and then tells everyone it's OK to ignore this definition on
visual displays which do not significantly differ from 90dpi.
Conveniently
not defining "significantly differ." (Right now displays differ from
that
by as much as 40%, Is *that* a significant difference? I don't know, you
tell me.) Conveniently ignoring that current browsers have no way of
knowing if the display *is* significantly different from 90dpi.

No, it's *not* a simple question, Mike. ;{>}

(BTW, *are* cell phone pixels smaller than "normal" LCD pixels? I
thought
they were about the same physical size.)

Have fun,
Arlen
Chief Managing Director In Charge, Department of Redundancy Department
DNRC 224

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