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Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Trim those quotes, please!

Sent by Ben Nunn on 25 January 2002 16:04

I agree.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric A. Meyer" [EMAIL-REMOVED]>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:15 PM
Subject: [css-d] ADMIN: Trim those quotes, please!

> Hi everyone,
>     I'd like to reiterate something that was in the policy posting[1] 
> and which will also be in the expanded policy document when it's 
> finished: PLEASE trim down your quoted text to the relevant bits! 
> I'm not pointing fingers at any one person, because this is (even on 
> so young a list) already a major problem.  If you quote, in its 
> entirety, a 4KB message and add 1KB of your own thoughts, once 
> headers and such are slapped on top of that you get around a 6KB 
> message.  It could have been half that, even with a piece or two of 
> the quoted message intact.  Even worse are posts that include the 
> complete original post below an "Original Message" separator, with no 
> clear association of new text to quoted sections.
>     For the same reason, please also reduce the size of your signature 
> files!  Five lines ought to be plenty-- and that includes any blank 
> space stuck in before the actual signature text.  Big honkin' legal 
> disclaimers are not necessary here-- or if they are, put in the URL 
> of a big honkin' legal disclaimer.  Don't send the full text to us 
> every time you post.
>     Why is all this such a big deal, you ask?  Because of the people 
> who read this list in digest mode, where messages are collected 
> together into a single file and then mailed out at intervals.  At the 
> moment, digest messages go out when they total more than 50KB.  You 
> can fit a few messages with excessive quoting into that allocation, 
> or many compact messages with intelligently trimmed quoting.  So the 
> more you quote, the more often digest members (who picked that option 
> to keep their e-mail flow manageable) will get messages, which means 
> the list will be less usable for them.  Ditto for HTML and RTF 
> messages and attachments, which is why they're all forbidden as well.
>     Besides, trimmed-quotation messages are much, much easier to read 
> in general whether you're a digest reader or not.
>     While we can't (for now) automatically filter messages with 
> excessive quoting or signatures, I will place list members who can't 
> get their quoting or signature files under control on the "hold 
> messages for approval" list.  Consider this a semi-friendly warning.
> [1]< 
> 00024.html>
> --
> Eric A. Meyer (, List Somethingorother
> "CSS is much too interesting and elegant to be not taken seriously."
>    -- Martina Kosloff
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