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Re: [css-d] Major Site Revamp - Adopt a pet project?

Sent by Adrian Simmons on 3 December 2002 11:11


Marshall Roch wrote:

>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 05:43:32 -0800, Nathan Woods 
>> [EMAIL-REMOVED]> wrote:
>> My friend has this site:  www.gliderking.com, and it's a nested table 
>> nightmare and way heavy (68K).
>>
> Looks like PHPNuke <http://www.phpnuke.com> or PostNuke 
> <http://www.postnuke.com>.  I would be very surprised if neither of 
> those two have templates done in CSS... it might be easier to download 
> one of those and then modify it to look like the current one than to 
> start from scratch.

I checked the meta tags: PostNuke 0.7.1

Nathan, I'd steer clear of trying to simplify this layout with  css if I 
were you! The current implementation of templating/themes in postnuke 
does a bad job of separating the layout from the content, a lot of the 
table tags are hard wired into the php based modules postnuke uses to 
provide its features. In other words you would have to actually modify 
Postnuke itself.

I tried doing a css based layout for my first (and probably last!) 
PostNuke site:
<http://www.perlucida.com/sphop/>
And I'm not at all happy with the results, it doesn't look the way I 
want and bits of it are broken where a module inserts its own formatting 
instead of relying on the 'theme'. It's a mess, and it sure as hell 
doesn't validate.


Don't adopt this pet Nathan!

If you do then here are some thoughts:

It's probably pointless modifying the PostNuke php code yourself because 
AFAIK the PostNuke developers are working towards a better seperation of 
presentation from content, its sounds like the 0.9 series might allow a 
decent css based layout. So you could get the site upgraded when that 
comes out.

You could find a CMS that already has good separation from content and 
would allow you to create a lean mean template/theme. I've heard Drupal 
recommended and am going to try recreating my SPHOP site with that next 
year. But changing Gliderking to a new CMS would mean moving all the 
database content and that's likely to be nightmarish though not impossible.

If you want a copy of the almost less tables/more CSS PostNuke theme I 
made (crappy and broken as it is) then let me know off list.

It seems to me that www.gliderking.com is using all the css it currently 
can without making things a mess.

Adrian

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