while we're talking about using a bullet list for links... could someone have a look at this problem i have with formatting ul here is the page: http://www.cch-uk.org/test/ (don't click any links, they don't work) the nav bar is in a div that contains divs (which i called subnav) to group the links. i discovered that IE 5 displayed the bullet list with a left margin that moved it outside of the subnav div, so i started styling ul to move it back inside. but now it's way to far to the right in mozilla, which isn't a problem but doesn't look as nice. in the @import stylsheet i got this: ul { list-style-position : inside; margin : 0px -10px 0px 0px; } in the stylesheet for nn4 i got this: ul { margin : 0px 0px 0px -10px; } to be honest i'm not sure if i understand 'list-style-position : inside' correctly and if it is applicable here, but it seemed to help. or should i maybe style li instead of ul? it's not a major problem but i would like to understand this better. thanks iris ===== _____________________ omnia mea mecum porto <http://www.jarmin.com/> <http://www.demos.ac.uk/> _______________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL-REMOVED]] http://two.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/css-discuss Sponsored by www.westciv.com - CSS resources | software | learning