[please excuse the x-post, no takers on evolt, trying here??] [hi, new to the list, I like what I see so far] I came across a weird thing in Mac IE5.1 (and 5.0) some background: you can make a fixed size div scrollable by setting the overflow property thus: <div style="width: 100px; height: 100px; overflow: auto"> but in Mac IE5.1 I find that I'm getting a horizontal scrollbar as well as the vertical one. And on closer inspection it's actually clipping the content. Basically it doesn't reflow the div contents to take into account the scrollbars, so the right and bottom edges get hidden. But sometimes it works out fine.. try: http://www.sam-i-am.com/testsuite/css/overflow-auto.html and http://www.sam-i-am.com/testsuite/css/overflow-auto-tst.html reload that last one a few times. Randomized scrollbars :) I'm trying to pin down the conditions which cause it to work as intended (c.f the same page in winIE) and what makes it break, and no luck so far. Anyone else got any insight into this?? thanks Sam