Sent by Dickens, David on 6 February 2002 18:06
I called a student who attends our school to talk about this issue. His
expertise is first hand. That is, he is blind and uses JAWS.
He says the he prefers the menu at the top. It wasn't the answer I
expected.
He does, however, make three important points... 1. any menu that is
repeated on every page should be as short as possible, 2. there should be no
"roll-overs" or other "motion" on a page (this causes JAWS to re-read the
entire page every time this happens), 3. there should be no images for links
if at all possible since it reads him the location of the image file and is
often confusing.
Just some food for thought.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Albin Wilkins [EMAIL-REMOVED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:03 PM
To: [EMAIL-REMOVED]
Subject: Re: [css-d] content & menu sequence
First, I'm assuming: a.) the "Header" includes no navigation, and b.) the
"Menu" is the site navigation menu, not the content's menu (i.e. table of
contents).
I really like Robert's suggestions to have shortcuts near the beginning of
the page. Here's my version which includes link titles. <div
style="display:none"> <a href="#content" title="jump to the
content">content</a> <a href="#navigation" title="jump to the site
navigation">navigation</a> <a href="#footer" title="jump to the
footer">footer</a> </div>
If you use this "mini-menu", then you could use either
"Header / mini-menu / Content / Navigation / Footer" or "Header / mini-menu
/ Navigation / Content / Footer" without worrying.
If you don't use the mini-menu, then you should decide on a PAGE-BY-PAGE
basis what type of organization the page needs. Pages that are used
primarily for navigation purposes (such as the home page or a main
sub-section page) should use the "H-[mm]-N-C-F" order and those pages that
are primarily content should use the "H-[mm]-C-N-F" (think how annoying it
would be to hear your navigation on EVERY SINGLE PAGE /before/ getting to
hear the content!)
Of course, that's the ideal. It might be very difficult to switch between
the two orders and get a consistent CSS-based style across your site. Which
is why I recommend the mini-menu idea.
- John Albin Wilkins
on 2/6/2002 12:04, robert jan verkade at [EMAIL-REMOVED] wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 06, 2002, Brian wrote:
>> What is considered the graceful order of degradation? We use CSS to
>> encourage browsers to present information in a particular layout.
>> When the style sheet isn't being used, the information may be
>> presented in a single column. In those cases, should the page degrade
>> to:
>
> I think that Header - Menu - Content - Footer is an elegant way to go.
> First thing you know is where you are on the site, then what you can
> do and after that what the page has to offer. The footer isn't the
> least important thing, but it is called a footer. I think that it is a
> step forward for accessibility when you use shortcuts to the sections,
> combined with inline anchors.
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