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Re: [css-d] This site looks better in....

Sent by aardvark on 1 February 2002 01:01


> From: Lee Hinde [EMAIL-REMOVED]>
>
> So, what do you think of the frequently seen:
> 
> > This site's design will look best in a graphical browser that
> > supports style sheets. We recommend you download the latest version
> > of ....
[...]

I see the long history of "Best viewed in Netscape 3.0" or "Resize your 
browser to this width"  or "This page uses frames, but your browser 
doesn't support them." or "You must download Flash 5.0 in order to 
view this site" etc...

IOW, given all the anti-user history of people trying to control how 
people see their site, the examples you cite always sounds like it's just 
more of that...

this is part of the reason i didn't much go for the WaSP's upgrade 
campaign...  i like the idea, but i think they should have been pushing the 
other way... that and the fact that you can use CSS *and* still make it 
look pretty damn close in older browsers...

(two articles you might find interesting related to this topic:
To Hell With Bad Editors
http://evolt.org/article/css-d/25/6096/
Inside the evolt.org Rebuild: The HTML and CSS
http://evolt.org/article/css-d/20/5816/ )

> Ok, put another way, if you depreciate (is that the right word?)
> gracefully, do you see a need to let your users know that what they're
> seeing isn't the best you have to offer?

if your site degrades gracefully (deprecate on the web means tags that are 
being phased out), then no, there's really no good reason, unless either 
you're a design nazi, or you want to force a new browser down some poor 
sod's throat...

frankly, i'm rebuilding my personal site as a CSS layout just to test some 
ideas i have... if not everyone sees it *exactly* as i intended, that's fine... 
it's the web...  the user will always have more control over your page than 
you think, so you might as well accept it...
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