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Cutting and Pasting from Word?!

Sent by John Luxford on 6 November 2003 01:01


Hi Peter,

No Javascript editor is going to do a very good job with pasted garbage 
from Word, however, through server-side processing we were able to 
harness two projects to provide a cleanup mechanism:

- PHP's PEAR project (http://pear.php.net/) has an HTML/XML package 
called HTMLSax, which makes it pretty easy to build a custom HTML 
"cleaner" utility, as we have done.

- HTML-Tidy (http://tidy.sf.net/) is another very popular tool for 
"cleaning" or "tidying" HTML code, including the garbage Word dishes 
out.  They are also moving to a library-based code structure, so that 
it will be easier to plug into different programming languages in the 
future, which makes this a solution that isn't limited just to PHP as 
the other one is.

I think this is the generally accepted technique of cleaning MS Word 
junk, to pass the duties off to a server-side processor.  Of course, 
neither of these solutions has proven to be a perfect one for us yet, 
so ongoing tweaking and/or making due (depending on your skills or 
resources) is sometimes necessary unfortunately.

As to your second point about Mac support -- our system uses a custom 
built WYSIWYG editor (wrote it myself, actually :)) -- and it runs both 
in MSIE 5.5+ and Mozilla 1.3+ on all platforms.  It actually runs 
better in Mozilla, despite the implementation being a lot newer than 
Microsoft's.  Gauging from the level of difficulty/lack-thereof in 
adding Mozilla support (very little difference), I would say that most 
browser-based WYSIWYG editors will be cross-platform compatible in the 
near future.  I'm actually surprised to hear Ektron behind the game on 
that one...  then again, they probably have quite a bit more 
functionality than average that needs thorough testing.  Makes sense.

As for Mac OS 9 support, OS 9 support was dropped in Mozilla just prior 
to 1.3 (in the alpha stage of release).  However, there are a few 
projects that have tried to maintain this compatibility and provide 
their own OS 9 Mozilla releases, the best of which I've found has been:

http://www.wamcom.org/

Cheers,

Lux

On Wednesday, November 5, 2003, at 04:45  PM, Peter Bell wrote:

> Hello There,
>
> I currently use Ektron's EWebEdit as the WYSIWYG editor for my CMS. 
> It's
> not bad most of the time, but it often does a horrible job when users
> cut and paste from Word. My understanding is that all of the ActiveX
> WYSIWYG editors just hook into the same Microsoft code, so their
> capabilities are similar . . . Has anyone ever come across a WYSIWYG
> editor that genuinely does a good job of preserving formatting from
> Word?
>
> On a separate note, does anyone have a good recommendation for cross
> browser/platform editor for my Mac clients?
>
> Best Wishes,
> Peter Bell
> FreshSTart Software, Inc.
>
>
>
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